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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:14 pm Reply with quote
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Professional necesito que me ayudes en una duda que tengo.
Tengo un caballo de cabalgar y es medio barrigon como dicen por hay pero estoy 100% segura que no es de paracitos por que soy bien extricta en eso los desparacito decada 2 meses sin fallar, y me han dicho que le meta ibome por la boca para que se le valla un poco la barriga grande que tiene. Aclaracion no era haci era normal ni mucha barriga ni muy poca estaba bien de barriga pero desde que yo lo estoy alimentando se a puesto asi no se si es que este bien alimentado o no a que se debe esa barriga para serles exacta tiene una barriga como una llegua que ya lleva dos mese de haber dado a luz
ayudenmen con esa duda pleas thank.


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Professional I need for you to help me on a dought that I have. I have a a trail horse and has kind of a belly, but I am 100 % sure is not worm, being that I am very strick in deworming every 2 months.  They have suggested giving him ibone orally to reduce his belly size. I need to clear something, he had a normal belly, but after I tooked over the feeding he had gotten like this, I dont know if he is well fed. His belly looks from a mare that had given birth 2 months ago.
Please help me with this dought. thank




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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:34 pm Reply with quote
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Hola  Gran Coquí y bienvenida a pasovoice.com es un placer tenerte entre nosotros. Con relación a tu pregunta, te diré primeramente que el ivomec es un desparasitanté diseñado especialmente para el ganado bobino o sea para bacas.

Esta foto te muestra la caratula del producto.  

Algunas personas lo usan intramuscular (al musculo) o intercutáneo (bajo la epidermis o piel) en perros y caballos pero esta especialmente diseñado para las bacas y también viene en variaciones para el ganado porcino (cerdos) caprino (cabros) etc.

Lo que quiero decir es que no todos los animales contraen los mismos tipos de paracitos y por eso los científicos diseñan productos basados en esto.  Pueden decirte que les funciona para caballos y en cierta forma puede eliminar algunos paracitos como el strongyles pero también puede ser nocivo ya que el sistema digestivo es diferente en cada especie. Por lo que te recomiendo que uses un desparacitante con ivermectin que es un ingrediente activo en la marca Equalam especialmente diseñado para caballos. También hay otras marcas con el mismo ingrediente solo menciono este ya que es muy común.  Un plan de desparasitación efectivo implica que debes alternar el producto para evitar que los paracitos creen resistencia al producto. O sea que este mes le das de una marca y el siguiente de otra.  Al leer las indicaciones podrás saber cual ingrediente esta activo en cada uno y para qué tipo de paracito.

Mi consejo es que no uses el ivomec por boca, primero que no esta diseñado para usarcé de esa manera y segundo porque cual es el uso si existen desparacitantes específicamente para caballos?  No te dejes llevar porque te digan que es más fuerte contra los paracitos porque puedes enfermar tu caballo. Usa tu sentido común.

Ahora bien aunque no lo mencionas creo que tu caballo lo que necesita es mas ejercicio. Paréceme que está un poco sedentario, muy descansadito quizás.  Yo tenía un caballo adulto color moro al que llamaba Rufián parecía una vaca preña’, estaba desparacitado pero no ejercitado después de una semana montándolo por todos lados pero (bien alimentado) se puso como una guitarrita.

En conclusión Gran Coquí, siendo que tu caballo esta bien alimentado y desparacitado regularmente, no creo que debas preocuparte  pero si, comienza un plan de entrenamiento tomando en cuenta su edad, el tiempo que deseas montarlo, por el periodo de días que quieras montarlo, su alimentación y sobre todo su hidratación.  Ya verás que en poco tiempo estará esbelto slender como un galan.

 Dale un tiempo justo, en un par de meses veras cambios saludables, no lo lleves a la ligera para que no se lastime o enferme o, deshidrate en cuyo caso siempre provéele de electrolitos o una piedra de sal mineral.  Espero poder haberte ayudado, déjanos sabe como progresa tu caballo y estamos a tus ordenes siéntete en libertad de compartir en pasovoice con tos los temas.

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Hello Gran Coquí and welcome to pasovoice.com is a pleasure to have you with us. In relation to your question, I will firstly tell you that ivomec is dewormer designed specially for the cattle livestock or cows’ in other terms.

This photo shows the product cover of the product.

Some people use it intramuscular (to the muscle) or intercutaneous (under epidermis or skin) in dogs and horses but it is specially designed for cows and also comes in variations for the porcine cattle (pigs) caprine (goats) etc.

What I mean is that not all the animals’ contract the same types of parasite’s and for that reason the scientists design products based on this. They can tell you that works to them for horses and in certain form it can eliminate some parasites as strongyles but also can be harmful since the digestive system is different in each species. By which I recommend that you use a dewormer with ivermectin that is an active ingredient in the Equalam brand specially designed for horses.

Also there are other brands with the same single ingredient I only mention this because is very common. An effective dewormer plan implies that you must alternate the product to avoid that the parasites to create resistance to the product. That is that this month you give him one brand and the following one of another one. When reading the indications you will be able to know which ingredient is active  in each one and for what type of parasite.


My advice is that you do not use ivomec by mouth, first is not designed for be used that way and second because which would be the use if exist dewormers specifically design for horses? You do not let yourself take because they say to you that it is stronger against the parasite because you can sicken your horse. Use your common sense.

However, although you do not mention it I believe that your horse only needs is exercise. Look to me that he is a little sedentary, very restful perhaps. I had an adult horse grey color, which I called Ruffian and he seemed as a pregnant cow, he was dewormed but not too exercised. After one week riding him everywhere but (fed well) he then look as a guitar.

In conclusion Gran Coquí, being that your horse well feed and dewormed regularly, I don’t think  that you should be but do, begins a training plan taking into account its age, the time that you wish to mount him, by the period of days that you want to mount him, its feeding and mainly his hydration. You will see in just a short time he will be svelte, slender like a gallant.

Give him enough time, in a couple of months you’ll see a dramatic healthful changes, don’t push him too hard  so you won’t hurt him or to become sick or, dehydrates in which case always provides him with electrolytes or a mineral salt stone. I hope to be as an assistance, let us know as your horse progresses and we are here to help feel free to share in pasovoice in any of the topics.

Cordially,
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:18 pm Reply with quote
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My suggestion, not that I was asked, but my suggestion would also be to exercise and target the rib and abdomen muscles.  Working up to 18" cavalettis is an excellent way.

We are doing this with my old Appaloosa who coliced two years ago, and other than his weak lower muscles resulting in a belly, he is great weight.
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On the contrary, please, all suggestions are necessary to give the readers more options.  I personally like to read more on the cavalettis techniques, and how to target the horse thoraxes muscles.  Cavalettis are use in jump and dressage horse’s events, been the last one of my favorites.  I believe that this could be important info in the case of other horse owners with the same case.
Here y post a couple of pictures to illustrate the type of cavalettis I’m refer at.  


Been use in a dressage excersise

and set here for jump excersise




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