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Kerry W
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Latest from PFHAIt's membership renewal time!!!!! I'm sure everyone will receive the same dandy form for renewal.
A Message from the Paso Fino Horse Association
Your Association has taken a major step forward to enhance the communication process with the membership at large. You will note in your choices below that a subscription to Paso Fino Horse World is now inculded with your membership. Our goal, that is to say the goal of Association leadership, is to have an informed membership that will communicate its thoughts, desires, positions and opinions to the leadership with the result that the Association leaders make decisions and formulate policies that will be truly representative of the membership at large. As a reminder, don't forge that your membership must be up to date do to Assocition business at the reduced member rate and to participate in events, shows and other programs such as Pasos for Pleasure. Don't miss out on any opportunities ---RENEW EARLY.
Mary Emmons
Executive Director
I mean really. If that is their goal, they've failed miserably. Informed membership that will communicate its thoughts, desires, positions and opinions? That's the LAST thing they want. The magazine as a means of communication? Jacky got an entire paragraph about the kids on the stallion deal, but the diagonal policy got one half assed sentence, letting us know it was a done deal....and that was it! Try again...I ain't buyin! 
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Marleen Robinson
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Oh well. SOSDD! 
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caliber
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how full of shit can they be! another words, let me stick it.......with positive words! jejejejeje what a fool................
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Kerry W
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I think this is the same letter they sent last year. It would be nice if the magazine did keep us informed about ALL of the things that are important, but it just doesn't. I subscribed to the magazine long before I became a member. Felt it was a good way to get to know the breed a little better, before I dove in.
I understand that the mag is going through transition, but I feel too many things are left out, that we have asked about. I don't care who got fined for what, or what articles are in there...we have many interests in this country, but a heads up about something major BEFORE it happens...that's what it's supposed to be a vehicle for. That is COMMUNICATING. The magazine is going out, why not use it as they promised in this letter? To COMMUNICATE!
Why on earth would I believe a word of this letter, after the crap they've pulled this year? Why not just say "you have to get the magazine if you're a member...whether you like it or not"? It doesn't bother me that it's mandatory...but holy crap...why coat it with bullshit, saying it's all about communicating with the membership? It isn't even a little bit appealing.
Sheesh! Will they EVER "get it"?
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wildflower
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| Kerry W wrote: | I think this is the same letter they sent last year. It would be nice if the magazine did keep us informed about ALL of the things that are important, but it just doesn't. I subscribed to the magazine long before I became a member. Felt it was a good way to get to know the breed a little better, before I dove in.
I understand that the mag is going through transition, but I feel too many things are left out, that we have asked about. I don't care who got fined for what, or what articles are in there...we have many interests in this country, but a heads up about something major BEFORE it happens...that's what it's supposed to be a vehicle for. That is COMMUNICATING. The magazine is going out, why not use it as they promised in this letter? To COMMUNICATE!
Why on earth would I believe a word of this letter, after the crap they've pulled this year? Why not just say "you have to get the magazine if you're a member...whether you like it or not"? It doesn't bother me that it's mandatory...but holy crap...why coat it with bullshit, saying it's all about communicating with the membership? It isn't even a little bit appealing.
Sheesh! Will they EVER "get it"? |
WHAT??? You mean to tell me that my name was in the magazine when I got fined last year?  oopppsss I missed that issue!  hahahah!
The magazine used to be good but now it is down to about 5 pages, it is horrible. I like Show Time which reminds me I have to call them to renew! I realy hate to renew my memebrship with PFHA but if I have to show my colts and filly next year, they are in training as we speak and can't let them go to waste. If I had pleasure horses ( nothing against pleasure paso) I would put them in the field and ride the storm but when you have quality fino prospect this is the only way to get them out and hope to sell one of them. This sucks! I hope IPHF has a couple of shows next year! 
My website is almost done, I am so excited, I will be able to show off all my babies! Thank you Cheri for working so hard to get it done!
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Kerry W
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It was the current issue that it was in, Jacky. Not sure when it happened, but it's finally made the Association News. It does note that you've paid your fine...so all is well with the world, according to PFHA.
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wildflower
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WOW, one year later, it happened last year 08 at the National and I paid the fine in June 09 only becasue they kept on pursponing my chance to speak on a conference call in front of the BOD and plea my case , after the third time cancelling I told Mary Emmons to charge me and I wil pay it because I wanted to move on with my life and forget about that stupid incident. I actually got mad at her becasue I was having a bad day and she called and I kind of let her have it a little! 
Darn it, I threw the magazine in the garbage, just glanced over it and saw nothing interesting so!!!!
did they make a big story of it?  Was I big news??
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Kerry W
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No...it was listed with one other under Hearing Committee Decision. Then below it, there were paragraphs for 3 other people who were actually suspended. Most of the paragraphs are taken up by the locations of the infractions in the rule book (ie chapter #, page #, etc), but still...if they can put all that in there (printed words), why can't they have regional news, or a little info about the motiviation behind the diagonals policy? I could care less if you let someone ride your horse without a helmet, but I do care about that other stuff. A little "Howdy" from the president would be nice, occasionally too. But hey....who are we to ask for anything?
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caliber
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Yes Jackie! they are very good in humiliating members! to cover news! BUT I WONDER WHY! they cant publish their own mistakes and even frauds! uppppsssss!!!! I'm sure their doors will be closed for life!
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wildflower
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| Kerry W wrote: | | No...it was listed with one other under Hearing Committee Decision. Then below it, there were paragraphs for 3 other people who were actually suspended. Most of the paragraphs are taken up by the locations of the infractions in the rule book (ie chapter #, page #, etc), but still...if they can put all that in there (printed words), why can't they have regional news, or a little info about the motiviation behind the diagonals policy? I could care less if you let someone ride your horse without a helmet, but I do care about that other stuff. A little "Howdy" from the president would be nice, occasionally too. But hey....who are we to ask for anything? |
"WE THE PEOPLE" You are so right! maybe this is the reason nobody want to advertise in their magazine anymore and it is going to sh_t!! I paid for one year for our business card but when it is over, I quit!
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reubenT
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I was getting PFHW for awile back in 01-02 and it was a decent magazene with reasonable content. If it's so small now how are the various show breeders marketing their horses to each other? Websites taken over?
If the show world wasn't so "tight and quick" oriented, and if they were more consistant and practical in reguards to what a good paso fino horse should be like, I'd be a lot more interested in showing. Quite soon I will have my real pleasure gaited paso fino (in contrast to show pleasure) and will be hauling him all over the place attending whatever trail and show events I can make it to, but I won't be entering any regular paso fino shows except in the sideline usually unpointed classes where his lengthy gait extention won't be a detrement. But after studying paso finos for 9 years trying to learn all I can and decide what kind I want, watching lots of them and riding several of different types, he's the kind I want.
I like to think I'm not a normal paso fino buyer, but maybe I'm not that abnormal. I just like to study the marketplace theroughly before investing in it and I'm a practical buyer. I'm going to buy a horse that fits my needs/desires/likes. Marketing a "tight and quick" horse to the general public isn't going to work very well. I've heard a few degrading comments myself from people at a horse fair when those kind of pasos come in. But did ya ever hear the cheers when a speed racker blasts around the ring? If PFHA was actually wanting to successfully market the paso fino to the general horse riding public, I think it'd be OK to have a small contingent of the paso fino as FINO, but not make it the only thing that ever wins anything, equal exposure/winnings, etc, should be given to other forms of good paso finos such as the ones who excell at speed.
So is PFHA leaning away from a republic form of leadership?
The policy of a republic; Government exists to serve the people.
That's the way it oughta be.
Usual Dictatorship policy; the people exist to serve the government. (not usually stated in so many words but the rulers act like it)
Usually an oppressive rule.
I see our nation slowly shifting over to socalism and eventually a dictatorship. (It's already written into the laws where essentually dictatorship and full socialism will be implemented when a state of national emergency is declaired) I'm not surprised it's heading that direction, there is a prophecy in the Bible that predicted it.
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caliber
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I see the main problem with the PFHA is: They have 100% lost touch with the breed! Everything that I have seen is PEOPLE.....PEOPLE.....PEOPLE oriented! NOTHING PERTAINING for the breed!
We have BOD's that can care a jack ass what this breed will look like in 10 years, lets face the reality! Many of them came to this breed FOR MONEY!!!! and now! they make part of the organization to get advantage for themselves! NOTHING to do regarding the preservation, protection or even the integrity of breed!
The PFHA has gone to hell.................. and now is way too late to change the tone! THE CANCER has taken over..................... and DEATH will soon become!
Sorry, for being so real and clear..... hurts me to even admit the reality! but I do stand by my opinion!
PFHA is not a horse breed! IS A PEOPLES CLUB using a breed that they not even have a clue the mechanism on the same!
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Kerry W
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I think people rely on PFHA a little too much to market their horses. One side or the other is always unhappy about what PFHA is promoting. It simply is the responsibility of a seller to sell his own stuff. PFHA can generate interest in it, but it's up to an individual to make their own money. The magazine, of late, has had a lot of info for recreational riders. When you load the home page of the association website...a horse on a trail ride is the first thing you see. The scrolling photo gallery doesn't have one horse at a show in it, and there are 10 or so photos in that. Really, nothing on the home page is about showing, or is promotional for any "type" of horse.
In the show ring...that's subjective. I watched a versatility class at a show last year. Two horses in the class. It was a small show...could trailer in and out in a day...but the two that participated were there for other classes. So, why was no one there? Stall fees were really cheap, since it was at a State Fair, if they did want to stay the night...and there was opportunity for a lot of exposure. Over 54,000 people went to the fair that day...so you know that there were quite a few checking out the horses. Few were there to represent the recreational horses exclusively. Someone with a well trained horse, had a perfect opportunity to show off their stuff...and they missed the boat. So PFHA is supposed to do what about that? You can't judge what ain't there. You can't throw good money after bad, promoting a contingent that doesn't help support itself.
I heard people talking trash about the breed too..."It can't be natural", "Do they do anything else?" They'd probably freak out completely if they saw a speed largo in the ring, because that looks "foreign" to them...and you know how we Americans take to "foreign" stuff. They ooh and aah over speed rackers, because they've grown up knowing about them. No mystery there. I don't even see people from within the breed watching the largo race at Nationals. Well, they come in at the end, because the fino stallions are about to come in....
I don't know Ruben. I've been hearing that stuff since I came into the breed...and the shows look just like they did then. None of the people who complain about quick and tight ever show up...except to sit beside the ring and talk trash about the horses that DID show up. We have to fight with the outside world about our breed, why do we have to fight amongst ourselves? What about THAT is savvy marketing? C'mon in and join the fight, or c'mon in and join the fun...which sounds better?
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reubenT
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Yah, the trail horse breeders arn't out there promoting a whole lot, I guess they promote by riding the trail rides, probably lack of funds and time to go around, and if they get enough sales without very many demo trips no need to do very many. I've read the paso fino discussion boards for the last 9 years or so and have seen the talk of how the faster ones got pushed out of the show world. (that's all I know about it is the talk I see/hear, I never heard of a paso fino before about 1999) If they have no chance to win anything why even go? the specialty classes arn't usually enough draw to get them there.
Just last show this summer I over heard an owner tell his trainer to keep the speed down, (performance class) like he knows the judges don't like speed.
I guess a case of what wins at the show sets the standard for what breeders breed for, because what wins usually sells for more. except for a few breeders who take exception and set their own standards and ignore what wins the show.
Oh well, I personally don't care how well marketing is done or not done. I'm not going to profit from them anyway. I'm just gonna go get one and have fun with him. I'm planning on joining the speed racking campouts and see how he does beside the standardbreds and faster TWH's. There's a big one only bout 50 mi from me every spring, I'm planning on being there next spring.
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