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| caliber |
Feria de Las Flores live August 7thru 10-2008Feria de Las Flores LIVE here August 7TH thru10THCourtesy of miscaballos.com CLICK ON THE PICTURE FOR THE LIVE SHOW 
or mms://208.239.77.115/pasolive courtesy of PasofinoTV |
| caliber |
This will be a great event!
SCHEDULE! I highlighted some classes that might be of great interest to many! PERFORMANCE HORSES, NATURAL HORSEMANSHIP, GAITED MULES and JACKS! and for those of you who are not familiar with the F.C. ceremony............... Every night they will they will have F.C. ceremony for the modality of that day! All CHAMPIONSHIP classes will be on Sunday! Judges: Mr. Jaime Benavides Mr. Alejandro Mendoza Mr. Juan Fernando Vásquez Event will start Thursday August 7th at 11:00AM EDST, please note all TIMES based on EDST The event will begin with an exhibition of the Performance horses 11:00 P.M- Paso Fino Modality 2:00 P.M. Paso Fino Modality August 8th 10:00 a.m. Natural Horsemanship 2:00 p.m. Trote and Galope Modality August 9th 10:00 a.m. Mules(gaited), Jacks(gaited) and Trocha Modality 2:00 p.m. Trocha Modality August 10th 10:00 a.m. Trocha and Galope Modality 2:00 p.m. Trocha and Galope Modality Have Fun!!!! |
| BigJ |
Fantastic! Thanks a bunch. Go to this link: mms://208.239.77.115/pasolive |
| BigJ |
Interesting. Is it a fact that horses still in the bosal must wear only soft rawhide/leather with no metal or rough/hard textures? |
| caliber |
do you see metal?
6 horses that I will consider ! not in order yet! #4 out! for marking (hard pounding) double gait from the right front! #6 #12 out, showed great difficulties at work #15 #19 #24 #26 #8 OUT! dead tail #14 OUT! dead tail #13 OUTCH! the flex hurt me! OUT! thank you for participating! Finalists! out of 27 horses! 6 11 15 16 19 20 24 Final! #24 Best Schooling Filly #19 First Place #20 Second Place #15 Third Place #11 Fourth Place No fifth not six place awarded! |
| BigJ |
No I don't...that's my point. So I wonder why there are people in the USA buying from USA dealers, believe it is Colombia that is setting the trend for "barbaric" and "illegal" tack.
EDIT: I noticed this while watching the pre-pista inspection. |
| caliber |
I agree! and I question myself too? 
Ignorant people will generalize! |
| BigJ |
So far, they are struggling on the turns.
Personally, I'd like to see a true serpentine (half-circle pattern) than weaving through the poles like a barrel racer. I should say a gymkhana horse. |
| caliber |
I also will like to see them FLEX body on the turn! they are all very
stiffed! more like ) instead of / |
| BigJ |
Agree! If they were more flexible the serpentines would be much prettier. |
| caliber |
and true collected! and maybe! faster and pronounced on their gait! |
| BigJ |
Yep. It takes true collection and true squareness to bend, maintain the gait and remain balanced on all four.
I am impressed with the general quality of the horses. The potential is there for sure. None seem to be very secure though, very unsettled and a few acting insecure. How old are the horses? I was watching pre-pista to check on some confo issues I've seen in the past. This group is much improved on the top line, croup, and legs. Also I am very happy to see quiet hands and quiet legs on the riders. Much, much better than what we see in our trainers in the USA. I'd rather see horses needing more work but ridden with some dignity and respect than to see what we do here in the USA to our horses by constant leg bumping and hand twitching to "make" the performance look more than what it is. |
| caliber |
me too! I agree in all! |
| caliber |
What a great show! 177 Paso Fino Horses competed today! I was stunned to see the quality.
Too BAD my "FAVORITE HORSE" that I have seen in very long time, was excused for bad behavior! but, what can we do? rules are rules and I am glad they are followed. Here is a the clip! of my favorite stallion! http://pasovoice.com/about816.html&highlight=tormentode++guajira |
| caliber |
WOW! and the future is looking very good! In my opinion, THE MARE is the most important factor!! of any breeding program! and of any breed! adn Colombia has it!
THE BEST CLASSES! the 3 y/o Filly! 27 fillies! extraordinary! QUALITIES! And the Adult Mares! 28 EXTRAORDINARY!!!!!QUALITIES WHAT A CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1st place..... Dulce Miel 2nd place..... Poderosa de LM (USA, Ocala, Florida, the Rabicano Mare that took 2nd place at the 2007 PFHA National) 3rd place..... La Intrusa! Congratulations Sr. Restrepo! |
| BigJ |
 Unfortunately my network connection at home is not fast enough.
The steaming is jerky at best. Too bad! Pasofinotv leaves most of us out of the loop. |
| caliber |
Candice, if you have DSL you shouldn't have any trouble, have you done an UPDATE on Window Media Player? |
| BigJ |
Yes, it is definitely the connection. I can't get the fastest baud rate, but my connection is pretty fast.
I don't have any problems with any other televised event except the ones through pasofinotv.com Someone needs to tell the fellow. I can all other live events through other sites without a problem. This has happened before with pasofinotv. |
| caliber |
President of Colombia Mr. Alvaro Uribe Velez........... it was a very emotional ceremony to see all the past President of Asdesilla.
President Uribe Velez, also rode a fantastic mare! Lets not forget his father helped found the PFHA! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4n5MDSnqQU |
| BigJ |
questions:
1. Could someone please educate me about the chaps worn in Colombian competitions? The history of why and when. What are they called? 2. Some of the riders dismounted and uncinch the saddle then look like they were airing the horse's back. What was that all about? Thanks! |
| caliber |
The Colombian long chaps are called Zamarros! The history, well! Is mostly cultural tradition that only originated to protect the riders clothing from mud and sweat in the old days, since streets was not option. The Zamarros has become a traditional object and part of the SHOW CULTURE and rules of Colombia.
What I wonder sometimes is, how many stimulant objects can a Zamarro hide? 
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| BigJ |
Where can I go to find out more about the zamarros?
Honestly, I don't care to adopt them. They seem to encourage bad equitation or maybe hide it. Also, with the mud and sweat, they would seem to be more cumbersome than useful. I see allot of Puerto Ricans, gringos, etc. wearing them and I have to smile about it. The funniest is to see a few wearing them and then riding Puerto Rican Paso Finos. I'm not sure I care for the cross cultural effect. Granted they belong to the paso fino more so than other dress, but I can't fathom trying to walk in them. So would a person just put them on before mounting and then take them off as soon as they dismounted? Does anyone know the answer to my second question. I was curious about that too--whether there was a purpose or not. |
| caliber |
In reference to the second question... sometime after working hard! the cinch get loose! after they dismounting.... you always like to double check it!
Imaging mounting after winning and having the saddle turn on you! WOW! that will be a nightmare! Zamarros! in the old days!! going to mass on Sunday! everyone needed all the protection possible to keep those pants cleaned! Walking on Zamarros! NOT REALLY MEANT FOR THAT! you will wear them just before mounting!!! There is a way of dismounting!!! that will prevent landing on them! is a technique! jejejejejeje Here is a picture of what we are talking about! zamarros! 
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| BigJ |
Thanks!
Interesting. Oh, I agree about checking the cinch but was wondering about the dramatics with the saddle raised up and down several times. Well there has to be a way to dismount without killing oneself with those cow hides. Needless to say, that is one reason I'd never be caught wearing them. I'm not very graceful mounting or dismounting to begin with. The last thing I need is something to assist my clumsiness. |
| Hacienda Radiante |
I've been playing around with sidesaddles recently. All I can say... DO NOT combine kerrits sticky-britches with a sidesaddle... I was starting to think in terms of winches to get my leg unwrapped from the leaping horn and my heinie off the saddle. Thank goodness Juan Miguel is tolerant of human stupidity. 
So... Felix, what IS the technique for mounting and dismounting with zamarros? And is this a 'male-only' item? |
| caliber |
Let me see how I can word this:
Dismounting: after you swing your right leg to your left side of the horse, loose up your left stirup, swing both legs BACK and land! This will prevent landing on your Zamaros! Do I make any sense? 
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| BigJ |
OK, so I put a cow hide on each leg to keep them clean and tidy, but when I get off I have to do a emergency dismount? Into the stuff I'm trying not to get on my clothes? Oh, wait, I get it. You dismount where it's NOT muddy? DuH! Karen, I tried side saddle for a while and decided I better not! Like Radiante asked: I understand that the zamarros were worn by men. Now I can see why. For women and kids, did they travel by horse back the same way? |
| Hacienda Radiante |
Actually, I think I understand, Felix -- its rather like the pivot and stand technique women have to use to get out of a low car while wearing a skirt.  I was curious because we bought Angel a pair of zamarros and he had to stand on a box to try them on -- it wasn't quite the right audience for me to bellowing 'so how do these things work, anyhoo', but I was very intrigued! I'd really like to know if I'm going to offend anyone by putting on a pair.
Sidesaddle, well, let's say I'm not the epitome of gracefulness right now, but if I don't feel more confident by the fall I may go try to find someone who can give me lessons. I trust Juan not to kill me between now and then, when I'm wriggling around he just swings his head around and gives me that 'you moron' look. I'd love to be able to demo in sidesaddle, it's a great way to show another use for that smooth gait. And Pasos are actually better for sidesaddle than you might imagine because they are 'forward' horses and you don't need a lot of leg to get them to move off. Handy, when all of the inept riders legs are tangled up on one side of the horse. 
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| BigJ |
Sigh! Obviously you have not watched me try to get out of my car either.
Well, I saw women wearing them during the competiton in Las Flores, so how can it be said a woman can't? OK, I see the point now, it takes me a while to catch up. Different use for what appears to be the same thing but not really. That explains the more open, almost skirt like design and why the leather covers everything including the foot. Also why the back of them are longer than the front to protect agains the mud slung up from the rear. Felix correct me on this: So the zamarros were for a special use then? Were they worn for say, working on a ranch too? Now this leads me to other questions about the Colombian landscape. Chaps in the USA were not for keeping clothes clean but protecting the legs against thorny brush. The woolies in the winter pulled double duty to keep the legs warm. They even made armor skirts for the horses to protect the chest against burs, thorns, and stickers. Chap designs depended on what part of the country you were from. Some were full leg chaps, some chinks to cover a little below the knee, some were batwings, and some were armitas. Some designs depended if tapaderos were on the stirrup or not. Down south, most hunters will wear what they call "chaps" which are heavy duty pants to walk through the woods with. If you don't, the stickers will nail you through the pants legs. I've been sticker-bit more than once with jeans and long sleeves on. I can't remember the material for the chaps but they are designed so the thorns can't penetrate and you can walk through the brush without getting caught on something. I've had to untangle my arms every now in then walking through blackberry briars. I was talking to someone about what was worn around the SE and the full legging chaps were the choice here. |
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| BigJ |
What can I say? My horses love me just the way I am. 
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