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Kerry W · Site Admin

This is from the ATTA E-news:

PFHA CERTIFICATES OF VALIDATION FOR COMPETITION
PFHA has approved the changes to the proposal to the diagonals that was approved in January of 2009. The Certificate of Validation that PFHA approved is for purposes of competition only. This means that if a member of ATTA wants to participate in PFHA sanctioned classes for Trote y Galope, Trocha and Trocha y Galope, you must request a certificate from PFHA.

The process is to fill out an application where you will provide a copy of the registration of ATTA. The fee is $125 dollars which was determined & set by the PFHA board. The certificate will have a number for each horse. The certificate will also have the name of the registry where the horse is registered at. This certificate for the diagonals is also available to International Associations approved by PFHA. ATTA is an approved registry with PFHA. THIS IS NOT A REPLACEMENT OF YOUR ATTA REGISTRATION. PFHA has also grand fathered the horses that competed in the past Ocala, & Miami shows and the upcoming Spectrum Int'l Show. If the horses that competed in those diagonals classes or will compete at Spectrum, who wish to show at the PFHA National show, they must request the certificate before July 1, 2009, to receive the points earned in those shows. PFHA will offer the national classes based on the entries that are in by the August 31, 2009 date.

ATTA encourages you to get your certificate. Another point, if you have shown a horse in the diagonals classes without a registration in the past, you must get your horse registered with ATTA, so that you can apply for the PFHA certificate of validation.

Still have a question?....regarding the above:

How to get a horse registered with ATTA? Submit email to attainfo@earthlink.net. Questions for horses that are already registered with ATTA or other International Registries? Please contact PFHA directly. Please visit their website at www.pfha.org or call 813-719-7777.

caliber · Site Admin

Thank you Kerry! that is very clear.........

pasosx3 · A/O

Will the diagonal paso owner be required to join PFHA?

Kerry W · Site Admin

I'm not sure....perhaps Lori will see this and let everyone know.

pasosx3 · A/O

Thanks. I had heard several months ago when this was being discussed/voted on that the diagonal Paso Horse Owner, the Trainer and the Rider all had to be members of PFHA in order to Show the horse. This is in addition to purchasing the Validation Certificate from PFHA.

I have been waiting for an "Official" written Rule/Procedure from PFHA on all of this. So far, all we've gotten is from ATTA. I appreciate the update from ATTA, but they really are not the "Official and Final Word" on this since it is all PFHA...

Maybe the PFHA President could state, in writing, the actual Rule, Policy and Procedure????? It would be less confusing to get it "from the horse's mouth" so to speak, don't you think?

Thanks!

Kerry W · Site Admin

I agree....we'll see what we can find out.

Kerry W · Site Admin

Okay...I called PFHA just now, and found out the following:

If you show at a PFHA sanctioned show, yes...you do have to be a member of PFHA....just like if you were showing in any other class.

PFHA is keeping track of the points, including those from past shows for this show year, as long as you get your certificate from them.

In order to be eligible for Nationals, you must have all necessary paperwork/fees, etc., submitted to PFHA by August 30 or 31st (she wasn't sure which...so earlier is always better), and you have to have the 20 points to qualify for Nationals.

Hope this helps.

P.S. Thank you Carolyn and Cori for your attention!

pasosx3 · A/O

I spoke with Carolyn this morning at PFHA and here is what I found out:

1. Validation Certificate fee $125.00, a one-time fee.

2. What if the horse gets sold? Is there a Transfer Fee and what is it? She did not know the answer.

3. Is membership in PFHA required? Yes, the Owner and Rider will have to pay the membership fee to join PFHA. They will have to be current members to get the Validation Cert and to Show the horse each year. The membership includes full membership privileges.

4. Will there be diagonal Classes at Nationals? If 2 or more horses sign up for a Class, they will have a Class. If less than 2 horses in Class, the class will not be held. No refund on the purchase of the Validation Certificate.

5. Number of points to be eligible for Nationals? 20 show points.

6. Do non-PFHA Registered Paso Finos have to have Validation Certificates to show? (ie. a Puerto Rican registered Paso Fino that is not registered with PFHA). Yes, if the Paso Fino is not registered with PFHA, then it has to purchase a Validation Certificate and the Owner and Rider must join PFHA.

Hope this helps.

Kerry W · Site Admin

Oh boy! Bet Carolyn is wondering what is in the water over here! Laughing

grif · A/O

pasosx3 · A/O

Thank you Cindy for the Correction.

Please, don't get Carolyn at the PFHA Office Registrations Department in trouble, she was trying to be helpful. I'm sure she was answering the questions as she understood things to be.

loriperez

More claification answers:

Yes, the certificate will have to be transfered to the new owner. First thing is the original association (in this case ATTA) records the transfer of ownership, updates the registration & mails out to new owner. New owner needs to transfer the PFHA Validation Certificate into their name. The horse is already "certified", so it is just a transfer. I would assume the fee will be relative to what PFHA charges to do this currently - which is $35.
(I don't know if that is what they will vote it to be)

Cindy - I am pretty SURE that Carolyn was referring to any Paso Fino that is not registered with PFHA that wants to compete, but is already registered with another approved Confepaso association, has to be Registered with PFHA in order to show here and get points. OR, she thought it WAS a Diagonal registered in Puerto Rico already

The forms are now available at PFHA. I was emailed one today from Mary. Any ATTA member can email me directly and I would be more than happy to email it out. I am going to try and get them uploaded to our website this week (I have to figure out how to do it or ask the webmaster Embarassed

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Thank you,
Lori Perez
ATTA Board Member

caliber · Site Admin

Lori I have another question. Can a horse be PFHA registered and ATTA registered, holding both registrations? other words! Fino parents, but this horse is TROCHA but holding PFHA registry.

And if so, would this horse loose PFHA registration for only showing under PFHA (diagonal show certificate)?

I hope I explained myself........................... Question

loriperez

Hi Felix: Part of this question is for PFHA. Currently... Yes, ATTA will at the request of the owner register a PFHA registered horse as it is an accepted Confepaso registry. (The horse should have diagonal horses in it's bloodline by at least one parent.)

However, the horse must be certified prior to registration by an ATTA techinical advisor/judge to determine the horse is in the proper gait. Similar to what Peter Adrian did with his stallion at the Grand Prix. (which was not pursued).

I do know that PFHA will not issue a "Certificate of Validation" for competition purposes off of a PFHA registration.

I am going to have to check with Mary Emmons & Dr. Lauracuente if a horse is already registered with ATTA (or another Confepaso registry) if they would issue the Validation.

loriperez

Also I want to point out to all that all horses must have their certificate of validation by July 1, 2009 (Mary let me know this in an email yesterday). I had used the date of July 31th. in the ATTA e-news. Sorry for the mis print. Crying or Very sad